Jason Isbell Plays Live, Plus New Mexico’s Michelle Lujan...

Jason Isbell Plays Live, Plus New Mexico’s Michelle Lujan Grisham

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New Mexico’s governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham, has declared the state a “reproductive safe haven.” Sandwiched between Arizona and Texas, New Mexico is preparing for battles to protect abortion patients and providers from legal action by those states. And one of the great Americana songwriters working today, Jason Isbell, speaks with The New Yorker’s John Seabrook, and plays some of his songs.

New Mexico Is a “Safe Haven” for Abortion Between Texas and Arizona

The state’s governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham, talks about likely battles with its neighbors over abortion access. The Supreme Court, she says, has “teed up” conflicts.


Jason Isbell on Songwriting While Sober

The musician Jason Isbell finds joy in playing songs about being sober—even if the audience isn’t.


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